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Post by fcum on Dec 18, 2016 11:03:14 GMT
Many of the Sanctuary contributors actually at the game today? "Meet you for a drink and watch football?" "Fuckoff. I've got a life."  Person in giving money to a football club they get no benefit from shocker. Disgraceful. Is that the best you can do? |
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Post by jeepster on Dec 18, 2016 11:41:33 GMT
The benefit they think they get is boasting of their part in supporting the "FC united fighting against modern football story".
This gives their otherwise middle class suburban lives some much needed street credibility and makes them feel edgy.
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Post by fcum on Dec 18, 2016 12:13:44 GMT
The benefit they think they get is boasting of their part in supporting the "FC united fighting against modern football story". This gives their otherwise middle class suburban lives some much needed street credibility and makes them feel edgy. Haha, you'll probably find most people who contributed would be happy with a sustainable, non-league football club which benefits its supporters and community. The previous regime devoted plenty of time to grandstanding and attempting to change football in preference to running a football club. |
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Post by shadow on Dec 18, 2016 20:29:41 GMT
A psychologist would have a field day with Sanctuary members. Why can you not think for yourselves? You all reproduce the mantra ad verbatim. Its amazing how you are all controlled by one person who is using you in his own personal little game.
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Post by fcum on Dec 18, 2016 23:07:36 GMT
A psychologist would have a field day with Sanctuary members. Why can you not think for yourselves? You all reproduce the mantra ad verbatim. Its amazing how you are all controlled by one person who is using you in his own personal little game. I'm quite capable of thinking for myself. Perhaps the 'mantra' as you put it is the reality? I'm a Chartered Accountant and a Chartered Tax Advisor. I asked questions of the previous regime in connection with the finances and was met with either silence or, in the case of one Board member, assurance in their view that everything says fine. It clearly wasn't and it was apparent they had no understanding of the published financials. It doesn't take the finest financial brain to work out that a function room in Moston is not going to turnover up to 300k per annum in non matchday income and in terms of generating revenue to pay off the borrowings, this was one of the main income sources we gambled our future against. Not having a marketing brochure for the function room despite having a full time business development manager and a fundraising contractor is just plain and simple mismanagement. That room had to deliver in order to have any chance of us meeting the year 1 targets. Ditto the 'misunderstanding' with the main sponsor. <NAME REMOVED by Admin> was a good orator and figurehead who did a lot for the club but he doesn't possess the business acumen or skills required to deliver extremely difficult targets. The old Board buried their heads in the sand. |
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Post by jeepster on Dec 19, 2016 0:12:30 GMT
The benefit they think they get is boasting of their part in supporting the "FC united fighting against modern football story". This gives their otherwise middle class suburban lives some much needed street credibility and makes them feel edgy. Haha, you'll probably find most people who contributed would be happy with a sustainable, non-league football club which benefits its supporters and community. The previous regime devoted plenty of time to grandstanding and attempting to change football in preference to running a football club. Naah. Majority just wear FC as a badge of honour to bore other “footy” fans about their real fan credentials as an alternative to discussing property prices, pension schemes, and craft ales. Been to an average of less than a game a year so file under other embarrassing frauds like Tim Lovejoy in his Ramones T shirt. |
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Post by shadow on Dec 19, 2016 10:22:45 GMT
Be careful fcum, your clumsy attempt at damning <NAME REMOVED by Admin> with faint praise is dangerously close to going off message. I would go back and check next time before you say anything at all in <NAME REMOVED by Admin> favour – the current Board certainly wouldn’t get away with it.
You may think you couldn’t possibly become a target, well don’t bank on it.
You mention you are a member of a professional body. I find that very strange. Should your clients become aware of what you are associating yourself with I think you could well find you would start to lose them as they begin to question your behaviour and judgement.
To get back to figures, how come, with membership down by approximately 40%, crowds down by approximately 30%, second spend hit accordingly, volunteers and income producers having walked away, Mr Mullock is still predicting a profit at the end of the season? The Club wasn’t really in hole was it?
Just imagine if all that toxicity which you endorse hadn’t been released and all those people hadn’t walked away because of it, just think of all that extra income. As an accountant that must get your juices flowing. Just think, the SMRE would been developed now producing higher match day income and releasing the main events room for weekend bookings. Just think of what you could have won.
Hang on though, that doesn’t fit the cult narrative does it?
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Post by fcum on Dec 19, 2016 11:06:41 GMT
Thank you for you concern Mr or Ms Shadow but I no longer work in practice so I don't have any clients to flee for the hills were they to find out that I am (shock horror) a member of an internet forum.
You only need to look at last year's accounts to see the hole we were (and still are) in. The function room had a negative gross margin so it cost us money rather than making us money. Despite the bumper attendances and a £150k windfall from the cup run, we made an extremely small operating profit. If the cup run hadn't happened, we would have been looking at a 6 figure operating loss. From memory, the Y1 profit forecast (which we asked people to invest based on) in the new ground was in the region of £150,000 (ignoring cup runs). I think that tells us that we were about £250k behind plan profit wise and failed to make the accruals required to meet the impending council loan interest and loan stock liabilities. It also doesn't take into account the requirement to finish the main stand. I'd say that's a pretty big hole. It's also a hole which isn't going to be filled by simply sustaining or increasing match day spend.
The commercial side of the club was an absolute disaster despite full time staff and contractors being in place. The last YTD forecast I saw was predicting a loss with the suggestion that this could be turned around to break even or small profit with increasing commercial revenues and members pulling together.
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Post by haroldhappybutty on Dec 19, 2016 12:42:55 GMT
If it wasn't for red issue, you wouldn''t have a club
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Post by parklad on Dec 19, 2016 12:58:21 GMT
Where's Baxter when you need something explaining
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Post by jeepster on Dec 19, 2016 15:23:38 GMT
If it wasn't for red issue, you wouldn''t have a club The use of YOU wouldn't have a club, instead of WE wouldn't have a club says all we need to know about how you relate to the football club. And yes we have now seen many times the Red Issue non-egotistical default position of threatening to take their ball in if we don't do things their way. |
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Post by facedontfit on Dec 19, 2016 15:32:37 GMT
Red Issue were certainly in at the beginning but it took more that a few nights in a currie house to sustain FCUM over the past ten years. I wasn't in attendance for those early meetings, and why would I have been, but consider that lots of us have more than compensated by our efforts since.
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Post by mufcum on Dec 19, 2016 17:04:17 GMT
If it wasn't for red issue, you wouldn''t have a club Harold, you don't get it do you? You have no idea why people are so concerned? I'm beginning to think there is a cult over there myself. |
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Post by reddhhed on Dec 19, 2016 17:54:14 GMT
You have no idea why people are so concerned? I'm beginning to think there is a cult over there myself. If some of their forum members have chipped in to help the club out then surely this a good thing? For those of us not as ITK as yourself could you let us know why you're so concerned? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 18:19:00 GMT
Be careful fcum, your clumsy attempt at damning <NAME REMOVED by Admin> with faint praise is dangerously close to going off message. I would go back and check next time before you say anything at all in <NAME REMOVED by Admin> favour – the current Board certainly wouldn’t get away with it. You may think you couldn’t possibly become a target, well don’t bank on it. You mention you are a member of a professional body. I find that very strange. Should your clients become aware of what you are associating yourself with I think you could well find you would start to lose them as they begin to question your behaviour and judgement. To get back to figures, how come, with membership down by approximately 40%, crowds down by approximately 30%, second spend hit accordingly, volunteers and income producers having walked away, Mr Mullock is still predicting a profit at the end of the season? The Club wasn’t really in hole was it? Just imagine if all that toxicity which you endorse hadn’t been released and all those people hadn’t walked away because of it, just think of all that extra income. As an accountant that must get your juices flowing. Just think, the SMRE would been developed now producing higher match day income and releasing the main events room for weekend bookings. Just think of what you could have won. Hang on though, that doesn’t fit the cult narrative does it? Last season's membership 5381 This season (and still rising) 3891. That's a 28% fall |
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