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Post by jonnyashton on May 4, 2019 15:43:55 GMT
I see the club having just been relegated have now got a helper for Reno! A semi pro club with an assistant manager! While people are trying to add to the budget with donations they get an assistant. Surely he's not left Prescott and joined for freeman's?
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Post by fcum on May 4, 2019 17:36:17 GMT
I see the club having just been relegated have now got a helper for Reno! A semi pro club with an assistant manager! While people are trying to add to the budget with donations they get an assistant. Surely he's not left Prescott and joined for freeman's? You're really scraping the bottom of the shit stirring barrel now. Maybe have a look at our backroom staff history and the management structure of most semi pro clubs before you start with your fake outrage?
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Post by freebarrygeorge on May 4, 2019 18:49:16 GMT
I see the club having just been relegated have now got a helper for Reno! A semi pro club with an assistant manager! While people are trying to add to the budget with donations they get an assistant. Surely he's not left Prescott and joined for freeman's? You're really scraping the bottom of the shit stirring barrel now. Maybe have a look at our backroom staff history and the management structure of most semi pro clubs before you start with your fake outrage? Hi FCUM. Not trying to be pedantic but as undeniably you are in the know regarding "semi pro clubs" a) under normal circumstances how many employees on average do those clubs have?? b) Have any of them ever employed a full time CEO (who isnt really any good) that has cost them well in excess of £60k per year c) What is the usual wage bill for a semi pro club for non playing staff?? d) What is the usual recruitment process for the highest paid members of the non playing semi pro club e) If that person who (expensively) made those recruitment decisions got them wrong would he be (rightly) questioned by those who ultimately pay those wages or would no one question the decision for fear of retributions?? Genuine questions which I am sure you will be able to answer without recourse to sarcasm or deflectionary tactics (although one wouldnt expect the 3 amigos to do the same!!!)
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Post by fcum on May 5, 2019 0:00:25 GMT
You're really scraping the bottom of the shit stirring barrel now. Maybe have a look at our backroom staff history and the management structure of most semi pro clubs before you start with your fake outrage? Hi FCUM. Not trying to be pedantic but as undeniably you are in the know regarding "semi pro clubs" a) under normal circumstances how many employees on average do those clubs have?? b) Have any of them ever employed a full time CEO (who isnt really any good) that has cost them well in excess of £60k per year c) What is the usual wage bill for a semi pro club for non playing staff?? d) What is the usual recruitment process for the highest paid members of the non playing semi pro club e) If that person who (expensively) made those recruitment decisions got them wrong would he be (rightly) questioned by those who ultimately pay those wages or would no one question the decision for fear of retributions?? Genuine questions which I am sure you will be able to answer without recourse to sarcasm or deflectionary tactics (although one wouldnt expect the 3 amigos to do the same!!!) Baz, I'm about as 'in the know' as you are. a. I've no idea. b. I've no idea. How much were Southport paying Natalie Atkinson before her departure? c. I've no idea but it will depend on level. d. Who knows - advertise, head hunt, word of mouth, jobs for the boys, a combination of all four? e. Who is the person you're referring to?
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Post by freebarrygeorge on May 5, 2019 6:24:41 GMT
Hi FCUM. Not trying to be pedantic but as undeniably you are in the know regarding "semi pro clubs" a) under normal circumstances how many employees on average do those clubs have?? b) Have any of them ever employed a full time CEO (who isnt really any good) that has cost them well in excess of £60k per year c) What is the usual wage bill for a semi pro club for non playing staff?? d) What is the usual recruitment process for the highest paid members of the non playing semi pro club e) If that person who (expensively) made those recruitment decisions got them wrong would he be (rightly) questioned by those who ultimately pay those wages or would no one question the decision for fear of retributions?? Genuine questions which I am sure you will be able to answer without recourse to sarcasm or deflectionary tactics (although one wouldnt expect the 3 amigos to do the same!!!) Baz, I'm about as 'in the know' as you are. a. I've no idea. b. I've no idea. How much were Southport paying Natalie Atkinson before her departure? c. I've no idea but it will depend on level. d. Who knows - advertise, head hunt, word of mouth, jobs for the boys, a combination of all four? e. Who is the person you're referring to? FCUM, by the inference of your words (not mine) "Maybe have a look at our backroom staff history and the management structure of most semi pro clubs before you start with your fake outrage" you have a very good knowledge of other semi pro clubs running so why all of a sudden your ignorance??
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Post by jonnyashton on May 5, 2019 6:50:03 GMT
FCUM Give us a comparison please? Let's compare the wage bill with AW and AW plus KM. Like FBG says you're in the know. How is it fake when you know the costs of the new structure? My guess is at least double and probably much much more!
Meanwhile honest people influenced by some are working their swollen bollocks off trying to raise money for quality playing staff.
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Post by fcum on May 5, 2019 9:15:13 GMT
Baz, I'm about as 'in the know' as you are. a. I've no idea. b. I've no idea. How much were Southport paying Natalie Atkinson before her departure? c. I've no idea but it will depend on level. d. Who knows - advertise, head hunt, word of mouth, jobs for the boys, a combination of all four? e. Who is the person you're referring to? FCUM, by the inference of your words (not mine) "Maybe have a look at our backroom staff history and the management structure of most semi pro clubs before you start with your fake outrage" you have a very good knowledge of other semi pro clubs running so why all of a sudden your ignorance?? It doesn't take somebody "in the know" to be aware that football clubs (including FC United) have assistant managers. Google is quite a useful tool too.
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Post by fcum on May 5, 2019 9:38:33 GMT
FCUM Give us a comparison please? Let's compare the wage bill with AW and AW plus KM. Like FBG says you're in the know. How is it fake when you know the costs of the new structure? My guess is at least double and probably much much more! Meanwhile honest people influenced by some are working their swollen bollocks off trying to raise money for quality playing staff. I think you're looking back through rose tinted glasses. Have a look at the 2016 accounts and see how much we were spending on staffing costs. I'm not sure where the off payroll office costs such as our former fundraiser are included in the accounts.
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Post by freebarrygeorge on May 5, 2019 17:57:57 GMT
To substantiate your shit stirrer allegation, please could you either explain what "the management structure of most semi pro clubs" actually is or withdraw your slur??
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Post by fcum on May 5, 2019 19:48:05 GMT
To substantiate your shit stirrer allegation, please could you either explain what "the management structure of most semi pro clubs" actually is or withdraw your slur?? Baz, I really can't be bothered debating this. We both know the vast majority of clubs at our level have an assistant manager. Have a look through the NPL list if you're that bored. Which teams don't? Buxton maybe? "A semi pro club with an assistant manager!" I perish the thought.
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Post by jonnyashton on May 5, 2019 20:02:32 GMT
As long as its within the budget then that's OK then. And of course it will be. You people renewing your season tickets, memberships and donating your hard earned cash will be happy with this. Now there are 3 people responsible for the 1st team.
I suppose time will tell. Let's hear Reno promise he'll get them back up. Hahaha. Sorry they'll get them back up.
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Post by fcum on May 6, 2019 0:39:59 GMT
As long as its within the budget then that's OK then. And of course it will be. You people renewing your season tickets, memberships and donating your hard earned cash will be happy with this. Now there are 3 people responsible for the 1st team. I suppose time will tell. Let's hear Reno promise he'll get them back up. Hahaha. Sorry they'll get them back up. I really don't get what your point is. Did you question the size of the set-up when Margy had Roy Soule, Daz Lyons and Dave Brown 10 years ago?
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Post by freebarrygeorge on May 6, 2019 7:26:02 GMT
To my uneducated way of thinking, Backroom staff and management structure means from top to bottom of the establishment to include salaried and paid staff in both playing and non playing duties.
Obviously your Educated way of thinking excludes the latter.
Hope that helps.
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Post by fcum on May 6, 2019 12:16:44 GMT
To my uneducated way of thinking, Backroom staff and management structure means from top to bottom of the establishment to include salaried and paid staff in both playing and non playing duties. Obviously your Educated way of thinking excludes the latter. Hope that helps. Helps what? We were talking about an assistant manager appointment. You suggested I should substantiate my allegation. The original post was the usual faux outrage and we can all agree that having an assistant manager is perfectly normal.
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Post by freebarrygeorge on May 6, 2019 15:12:17 GMT
To my uneducated way of thinking, Backroom staff and management structure means from top to bottom of the establishment to include salaried and paid staff in both playing and non playing duties. Obviously your Educated way of thinking excludes the latter. Hope that helps. Helps what? We were talking about an assistant manager appointment. You suggested I should substantiate my allegation. The original post was the usual faux outrage and we can all agree that having an assistant manager is perfectly normal. So in your opinion Management and backroom staff exclude all administrative staff?? It seems that your reply is your usual faux drivel
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