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Post by mrmystery on Mar 15, 2017 10:53:17 GMT
curious as to the views on here following the news that the previous GM held on to a laptop for several months and when it was eventually returned it was deleted to the point that files couldn't be recovered, even by an IT specialist, is that acceptable??? Are there any reasons or excuses why that should have happened?
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Post by nostrings on Mar 15, 2017 11:13:54 GMT
I agree that it is not good for the club and could be taken as unprofessional.
However I reckon that if I had gone through the personal abuse and attacks on me and threats to both my livelihood and family that happened, I would not want to leave anything that would provide even 1 word that could provide further ammunition to try to destroy me. Many people did not seem fazed by a text such as “have you hung yourself yet?” and their silence confirmed that as acceptable behavior to many at the club. Therefore in the interests of personal safety and sanity, anything that could be used as further poison would be minimized by me also.
Every action produces the next reaction.
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Post by mufcum on Mar 15, 2017 11:43:30 GMT
I would have thought it was OK to delete personal items. Have we got the full information about the situation? Others have mentioned this wasn't the only case in question. Is the club pushing to resolve that one also?
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Post by mrmystery on Mar 15, 2017 12:10:31 GMT
I would have thought it was OK to delete personal items. Have we got the full information about the situation? Others have mentioned this wasn't the only case in question. Is the club pushing to resolve that one also? I agree on personal items, no problem with him deleting family pictures etc. Except anything personal probably shouldn't be done on a computer owned by your employee. A current board member has confirmed on the finance YTD thread that a member who does that kind of thing for a living atttempted to recover any data from the laptop but was unable to recover a single thing prior to it been handed back coming to the conclusion that it was either a new hard drive or had been thoroughly deleted. It's certainly not in the best interests of the club, why would it be in the best interests of <NAME REMOVED by Admin>? Why go to that much effort unless you knew you'd done something wrong? Or had something to hide?
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Post by nostrings on Mar 15, 2017 12:18:46 GMT
You ignoring my response then. Hmmm. If you are an intelligent person then you must see that almost any information is being revealed and skewed in a way to look worse than it actually is, with all manner of snide accusations then followings so it looks like the absolute truth. If people were being fair in assessing actions instead of creating a cyber version of a Kangaroo court then perhaps the response to these vicious actions might have been more reasonable. Again, every action produces the next reaction.
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Post by mrmystery on Mar 15, 2017 12:30:52 GMT
I'm not ignoring your response no strings I think however the only thing we're going to agree on is that it' was not in the best interests of the club and was unprofessional.
Every action does have a reaction perhaps if communication had been better or previous members votes were not treated with such disdain then we wouldn't have got to where we are.
Interesting to read on other threads here the current board/GM or CEO getting snidely called out on all manner of things? would you be as supportive of them if they acted in their own best interests and unprofessionally?
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Post by nostrings on Mar 15, 2017 12:46:05 GMT
I'm not ignoring your response no strings I think however the only thing we're going to agree on is that it' was not in the best interests of the club and was unprofessional. Every action does have a reaction perhaps if communication had been better or previous members votes were not treated with such disdain then we wouldn't have got to where we are. Interesting to read on other threads here the current board/GM or CEO getting snidely called out on all manner of things? would you be as supportive of them if they acted in their own best interests and unprofessionally? If? They are in that they are being manipulated and being told what to do by somebody else, making the situation even less transparent and democratic than it ever was before. And as for how people are acting and reacting. Well in the first 10 years of FC the love bred more love. In the last 2 years the hate has bred more hate. How will this spiral end?
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Post by mufcum on Mar 15, 2017 13:03:02 GMT
Mrmystery, in your reply above I think you're asking for consistency. You didn't answer my point about the other alleged episode of an employee wiping data from their club laptop. If you want consistency are you also pushing for an investigation into that?
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Post by oddball on Mar 15, 2017 14:17:11 GMT
The manner of the muck raking going on tells me this is personal to a number of people at the club rather than pertinent to the club itself. I'd be interested to know how influenced the current board/CEO are by certain individuals, specifically members not elected to the board and certain non members on a daily basis who had a personal vendetta against members of the previous board/CEO which skews this whole issue. As for the laptop files being deleted it depends on what context. Was it done to save the individual from more personal abuse or otherwise? If you don't know exactly what was removed then I suppose you can create some controversy out of it, if that's your incentive. Considering the behaviours of some in the last 12 months i'd have burned it, never mind returned it.
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Post by mrmystery on Mar 15, 2017 14:18:04 GMT
Mrmystery, in your reply above I think you're asking for consistency. You didn't answer my point about the other alleged episode of an employee wiping data from their club laptop. If you want consistency are you also pushing for an investigation into that? That's a good point, ideally I'd like everyone to stop acting unprofessionally, or like a right bunch of dicks when they leave, but failing that, if wiping the clubs laptop to a professional standard is ridiculously allowed to become the norm then yes I think we should look into it every time. The question of <NAME REMOVED by Admin> laptop has already been asked on the official forum today I'm hoping an investigation is carried out.
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Post by mrmystery on Mar 15, 2017 14:21:32 GMT
The manner of the muck raking going on tells me this is personal to a number of people at the club rather than pertinent to the club itself. I'd be interested to know how influenced the current board/CEO are by certain individuals, specifically members not elected to the board and certain non members on a daily basis who had a personal vendetta against members of the previous board/CEO which skews this whole issue. As for the laptop files being deleted it depends on what context. Was it done to save the individual from more personal abuse or otherwise? If you don't know exactly what was removed then I suppose you can create some controversy out of it, if that's your incentive. Considering the behaviours of some in the last 12 months i'd have burned it, never mind returned it. Again, that's the clubs property not <NAME REMOVED by Admin> personal laptop, not something for him to do with as he pleases, in the absence of signed contracts etc. that have had to be dealt with lately no doubt that laptop could have saved some time and effort if it wasn't for the, at best, selfish attitude of <NAME REMOVED by Admin>. If you don't know what exactly was deleted how are you so sure it's acceptable?
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Post by greg24 on Mar 15, 2017 14:33:39 GMT
<NAME REMOVED by Admin>''s laptop was collected soon after she went off sick.
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Post by oddball on Mar 15, 2017 14:35:29 GMT
Do you know what was deleted Mr Mystery?
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Post by oddball on Mar 15, 2017 14:43:20 GMT
If you don't know what was deleted exactly then how can you link the absence of signed contracts directly to the laptop in question? Speculating without evidence to satisfy your personal loathing of an individual? There's been a lot of that going on though.
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Post by mufcum on Mar 15, 2017 14:48:03 GMT
Mrmystery, in your reply above I think you're asking for consistency. You didn't answer my point about the other alleged episode of an employee wiping data from their club laptop. If you want consistency are you also pushing for an investigation into that? That's a good point, ideally I'd like everyone to stop acting unprofessionally, or like a right bunch of dicks when they leave, but failing that, if wiping the clubs laptop to a professional standard is ridiculously allowed to become the norm then yes I think we should look into it every time. The question of Christine's laptop has already been asked on the official forum today I'm hoping an investigation is carried out. It's hard to keep track. There was another alleged incident by the former Club secretary. Are you calling for an investigation there also?
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