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Post by nostrings on Apr 28, 2017 9:21:02 GMT
And people say the age of wibblery is dead. Imagine being in a pub or on the terraces with people who have conversations about whether " the age of wibblery is dead". C*** soup. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 11:25:31 GMT
Do you really believe what you have written, Pinnochio? Yes. The galoot is merely a plaything for the person who is undemocratically running the club. In which case, please can you de-register me from here? Or tell me what I have to do to get a ban. |
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Post by shadow on Apr 28, 2017 18:47:30 GMT
Yes. The galoot is merely a plaything for the person who is undemocratically running the club. In which case, please can you de-register me from here? Or tell me what I have to do to get a ban. You know the answer. Stop acting like a drama queen. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 8:52:01 GMT
In which case, please can you de-register me from here? Or tell me what I have to do to get a ban. You know the answer. Stop acting like a drama queen. In the words of the Reverend Pye, this is bollocks |
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Post by facedontfit on Jun 16, 2017 0:40:31 GMT
Whats the verdict now Mickey on " the people that know what they are doing", your quote on the first post on this thread. Realisation is gathering momentum of the situation that this "new board" has dragged the club into more and more debt. Top volunteers are still either leaving or being forced out if they dont follow the party line. Yet still the controlled media out pourings from the club do not give the slightest hint of the financial turmoil that is just around the corner.
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Post by shadow on Jun 16, 2017 9:22:11 GMT
You won't get an answer, they are all slinking off with their tail between their legs no doubt saying something like "It's not my fault, how was I supposed to know?". Well, you were told but chose to believe a different narrative based on lies and personal vendettas.
I wonder if the book release will be delayed for a final chapter on the coup de grace?
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Post by nostrings on Jun 16, 2017 13:07:53 GMT
You won't get an answer, they are all slinking off with their tail between their legs no doubt saying something like "It's not my fault, how was I supposed to know?". Well, you were told but chose to believe a different narrative based on lies and personal vendettas. Unfortunately they will already have been told, and thus believed, that the club was in such a precarious financial state in 2015 and 2016 that it couldn’t be saved. The club did have long term debts associated with it 2 years ago as a result of the BP build. The liabilities had been well outlined and communicated in the 2 years prior via members meeting and AGMs. The fact that so many did not attend or listen to this, even when investing in the club in the medium term, is not good but should not be used to highlight the amount of debt as a problem of other people’s doing. We all bought into the dream. The problem is that up until 12-18 months ago, FC had sufficient income via Season Tickets, match day income and other fan-related sources, to pay off these debts in addition to running a decent football team. The amount of people who no longer attend or put money into the club has decreased by at least a 35% and probably 50% by this Summer, means we are now struggling to finance our liabilities. The hate and vitriol has been directed at mainly 8-10 people (and probably 4 of them deserved it due to their self-servitude). However the fall-out from this dis-United hateful behavior has been hundreds of decent fans, willing volunteers, excellent Board Members and good employees being “forced out” of the club. Therein lies the problem. Whether it is best described as “chucking the baby out with the bathwater” or as a “scorched earth” situation, this nasty crusade against individuals to de-humanise them and try to ruin their reputations has meant the death of any feelings of goodwill being evident in the club. The first 10 years were full of effort and people going the extra mile because they believed in the club being a good thing and liked the comradeship we had created. That is nearly gone now. Only this week a story of a former turnstile volunteer who quit because of snide insinuations re cash theft. Loads of similar stories are exchanged face to face re criminality being alluded to, even sexual insinuations. Piss Poor behaviour. If we could produce a KPI for goodwill then it would have gone from sky-high in May 2015 to toxic in June 2017. We all know who is the chief instigator but all those who either backed him or didn’t stand up to him, have to be perceptive enough to realise their complicity in FC’s demise. |
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Post by nostrings on Jun 16, 2017 13:10:12 GMT
I wonder if the book release will be delayed for a final chapter on the coup de grace? The hardback in September won’t, but the more lucrative paperback for the Xmas market will have an added epitaph chapter that simply states ….”I started this club, and I’ll finish it”. |
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Post by fcum on Jun 16, 2017 14:06:34 GMT
You won't get an answer, they are all slinking off with their tail between their legs no doubt saying something like "It's not my fault, how was I supposed to know?". Well, you were told but chose to believe a different narrative based on lies and personal vendettas. The problem is that up until 12-18 months ago, FC had sufficient income via Season Tickets, match day income and other fan-related sources, to pay off these debts in addition to running a decent football team. The amount of people who no longer attend or put money into the club has decreased by at least a 35% and probably 50% by this Summer, means we are now struggling to finance our liabilities. This is completely rewriting history. 12-18 months ago, the club would have made a significant loss were it not for a 6 figure cup and TV windfall. Season tickets, match day income and donations cannot generate the revenue surpluses we require to pay back the borrowings. The 5 year plan on which people invested their money included projected non-match day income and sponsorship forecasts which must have been dreamed up in Cloud Cuckoo Land. The projected non-match day income from the function room was particularly ridiculous (£125,000 plus from memory). Sadly, nobody appears to have had the first idea how to use the facility to generate non-matchday income despite full time business development staff being in place for months prior to the handover date. |
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Post by shadow on Jun 16, 2017 19:37:53 GMT
You really need to play a different record.
Of all the DF money raised this season (which should have been ring fenced) along with this summers season ticket money how much is still left? |
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Post by fcum on Jun 16, 2017 21:47:05 GMT
You really need to play a different record.
Of all the DF money raised this season (which should have been ring fenced) along with this summers season ticket money how much is still left? Do I? What I've said is backed up by the published projections and accounts. The notion that all would have been fine had crowds stayed at the 3,000 level is ridiculous. As for your question, I've no idea. They've said they're reconciling it. The question can be answered at the meeting on the 28th. |
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Post by glumfcer on Jun 17, 2017 11:22:37 GMT
Sounds like Damian Green trying to defend May this morning.
Hubris in extremis.
Being 'right' clearly matters more to you than the thin skein of hope that this club can be saved.
Fairytales for hard men.
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Post by shadow on Jun 19, 2017 8:52:22 GMT
The silent response to all the questions on finance and bank balances is deafening.
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Post by shadow on Jun 23, 2017 13:37:22 GMT
You really need to play a different record.
Of all the DF money raised this season (which should have been ring fenced) along with this summers season ticket money how much is still left? Do I? What I've said is backed up by the published projections and accounts. The notion that all would have been fine had crowds stayed at the 3,000 level is ridiculous. As for your question, I've no idea. They've said they're reconciling it. The question can be answered at the meeting on the 28th. It seems like there's a lot of time being spent on this reconciliation. That ought to be concerning to members in itself. Nobody wants War and Peace or a "historic" breakdown. Members just want to know what the CEO and the Board have done with the DF money raised over the last 12 months and the season ticket money over the last few weeks whilst they've been in charge. Simple.
It's a sad indictment of this lot if they can't put their hands on those figures easily, especially as DF figures and ticket sales were regularly being reported on the website and the forum. Or was that just bunkum?
They're also leaving it a little late to have the budget approved by members before the end of June as required by the following Resolution:-
"GM 2016 15/05/2016
Resolution 1
The Annual Business Plan should be approved by members by means of a vote before the end of the previous reporting period. If not voted in, a modified Plan should be developed taking into account members' input and concerns. Progress against the Plan should be reported on a quarterly basis to all members."
So how does the members vote work? A show of hands at a meeting that is not recognised as a meeting in the Club rules? Even if it were constitutional what about all the members that cannot attend?
YCNMIU
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Post by frankbough on Jun 26, 2017 15:04:02 GMT
A member of the SS states on the members forum that it would be interesting to ascertain why more females don't put themselves forward for the board.
Said contributor needs only to think back a year to the avalanche of despicable treatment meted out to the only female member of that newly elected board for the simple crime of having the temerity to question his glorious leader.
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