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Post by freebarrygeorge on Mar 21, 2019 10:35:53 GMT
If the administrative cock ups and poor recruiting decisions that have cost the club ยฃtens of thousands had been made by the walshocracy what would you have made of it?? International reg cock up ยฃ10k Fine and penalties from HMRC for not paying tax on time ยฃ10k+ (figure never disclosed..transparency etc ๐) Overspend on playing squad ยฃ ? 000's Cost of a years employing A. Walsh's replacement ยฃ60k Hmmm!! Or as they say "easy come easy go๐ฎ)
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Post by fergietime on Mar 21, 2019 12:48:53 GMT
If the administrative cock ups and poor recruiting decisions that have cost the club ยฃtens of thousands had been made by the walshocracy what would you have made of it??
I wouldn't have done anything differently because the following is what inspired us to rid FC of the parasites & leeches.
A communications officer and fundraiser that didn't communicate or raise any funds cost ยฃ30,00 The money wasted on TAL feasability study Another fund raiser who has a name similar to a boxer called Carl and a singer called Pete
who took loads from FC in bogus 'expense' claims
Then there's the vicar who also cost us loads and the woman who was employed to prepare the club ready for BP ie a sort of BDM/ Commercial Manager who had never managed anything more than a laundrette
As for HMRC , care to supply any facts ? There was nothing to declare , so once again your no transparency theory
is blown out of the water.
As for the International clearence affair , do you know who cost us ? [Don't know why I use 'us' because you are not part of Fc]
Probably some overworked volunteer because too many people are happy to let ohters do the work
Hope that's not too complicated for you to understand , Georgie boy
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Post by shadow on Mar 21, 2019 15:30:43 GMT
I wouldn't have done anything differently because the following is what inspired us to rid FC of the parasites & leeches. There were no parasites and leeches in the first 10/11 years of the Club. There were droves of people giving up their spare time and doing everything they could as volunteers to make a success of the place. A parasite or leech would be a good description of somebody who causes a shit storm in a successful organisation and then earns money out of writing about it afterwards. Some might even wonder if two such events could be linked.
A communications officer and fundraiser that didn't communicate or raise any funds cost ยฃ30,00 Show us your sums on the cost. Just one thing on its own that person did was to get a funding approval of ยฃ300,000 for the Club. However, that obviously needed torpedoing though as it wouldn't have made a very good chapter in the book. The money wasted on TAL feasability study What are you talking about? I have no idea what money was or wasn't spent on a "feasibility study" on TAL. However, the Club had an agreement with the Council to develop TAL and were proceeding with that development as we all know. It was the Council that subsequently cancelled it, as we all know, and then provided an alternative, far bigger and better site with additional funding which more than made up for any money spent on TAL. You're saying TAL would have been much better I take it. Another fund raiser who has a name similar to a boxer called Carl and a singer called Pete who took loads from FC in bogus 'expense' claims A person who raised funds for the Club, so what? I take it you were up in arms about the fund raisers appointed and paid for with no return since the summer of 2016? What bogus expense claims? Show your workings. Then there's the vicar who also cost us loads Loads of what? That person was a major force in driving the community work from scratch when the club was set up, and was responsible for the Club developing a reputation that was the main reason for Manchester City Council and other organisations putting funding and resources into the club without which there would have been no ground of any sort. Or is it your problem that he had religious beliefs?and the woman who was employed to prepare the club ready for BP ie a sort of BDM/ Commercial Manager who had never managed anything more than a laundrette Where do you get the launderette from? The commercial side took longer to get going than other areas of the Club after taking over the ground, thatโs a matter of record. As is the fact that in spite of the time now spent in the ground and other expensive employees and self-employed consultants being brought in to manage it there have been no improvements. As for HMRC , care to supply any facts ? There was nothing to declare , so once again your no transparency theory is blown out of the water. I know nothing other than what was on the forums about this. You obviously know more so give us the benefit of your ITK. As for the International clearence affair , do you know who cost us ? [Don't know why I use 'us' because you are not part of Fc] Probably some overworked volunteer because too many people are happy to let ohters do the work What? You mean like you? Do you know or donโt you whose mistake it was? If such an important matter was being dealt with by a volunteer it should have been overseen by a senior employee and if it wasnโt then that is sheer incompetence by the Board. Hope that's not too complicated for you to understand , Georgie boy Itโs a shame you donโt seem able to think for yourself Fergie,you can only regurgitate what you have been fed, but itโs all a bit too late now. The damage since the summer of 16 has been done and despite the gloating and posturing of many people most of it is beyond repair.
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Post by shadow on Mar 21, 2019 15:39:08 GMT
0 out of 10 for paragraphs, I know. Can't get the hang of this posting lark.
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Post by robthebuilder on Mar 21, 2019 16:46:00 GMT
Anyone with half a brain cell, who is involved in running a football or any other sporting club knows full well that one of the prime roles of a Club Secretary is to register players. And if the registering of players was left to volunteers, what is the Club Secretary being paid to do ? And, as we now know, the consequences can be be very significant !
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Post by thunderwing on Mar 22, 2019 7:43:18 GMT
0 out of 10 for paragraphs, I know. Can't get the hang of this posting lark. Not bad after 453 attempts. For anything you post in the future you might want to concentrate on cutting out a lot of the dribble contained in all 453 previous missives. Facts instead of hot wind and rhetoric.
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Post by shadow on Mar 22, 2019 9:38:55 GMT
0 out of 10 for paragraphs, I know. Can't get the hang of this posting lark. Not bad after 453 attempts. For anything you post in the future you might want to concentrate on cutting out a lot of the dribble contained in all 453 previous missives. Facts instead of hot wind and rhetoric. Comedy and irony. Brilliant!
How many edits did it take you for those few words?
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Post by thunderwing on Mar 22, 2019 10:23:38 GMT
Not bad after 453 attempts. For anything you post in the future you might want to concentrate on cutting out a lot of the dribble contained in all 453 previous missives. Facts instead of hot wind and rhetoric. Comedy and irony. Brilliant!
How many edits did it take you for those few words?
Wasn't bad was it? It didn't take 453!
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Post by freebarrygeorge on Mar 22, 2019 11:44:39 GMT
Hi Thudz would be very interesting to see your thoughts on the original question on the thread rather than trying to deflect by extracting the urine.
Thanks
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Post by thunderwing on Mar 22, 2019 15:02:43 GMT
Hi Thudz would be very interesting to see your thoughts on the original question on the thread rather than trying to deflect by extracting the urine. Thanks List the cock ups, ignorance and piss poor decisions under the previous regime(s) and I'll then you give chapter on verse on them and also the original question. That's fair isn't it? Quid pro quo?
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Post by freebarrygeorge on Mar 22, 2019 19:54:28 GMT
Hi Thudz would be very interesting to see your thoughts on the original question on the thread rather than trying to deflect by extracting the urine. Thanks List the cock ups, ignorance and piss poor decisions under the previous regime(s) and I'll then you give chapter on verse on them and also the original question. That's fair isn't it? Quid pro quo? As we all know, plenty of errors were made by the previous regime. Every single one of them highlighted by the PM and his lickspittle acolytes since the disgraceful coup d'etat, but that wasnt the question was it!! Why are the present regime allowed to make mistake after mistake without being castigated (unless they cross the man himself or fail to carry out his orders of course) or being subjected to accusations of impropriety and vile abuse?? Quid pro quo??? If only mate, if only!!
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Post by lawman on Mar 22, 2019 21:12:17 GMT
Its good too hear bazz that your finally acknowledging that the former regime made lots of mistakes.you never know we could see you back doing your volunteering again
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Post by freebarrygeorge on Mar 23, 2019 16:11:44 GMT
Its good too hear bazz that your finally acknowledging that the former regime made lots of mistakes.you never know we could see you back doing your volunteering again Lawman I have never denied that plenty of mistakes were made under the previous regime but that wasnt the question was it?? You were quick enough to jump on JP's bandwagon to castigate (correctly) those errors but now that it has been 100% proven that this lot are just as bad why your silence, acceptance and even excuses for such acts of negligence that has cost the club considerable monies?? I will play the game with pleasure but only on a level playing field.
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Post by freebarrygeorge on Mar 24, 2019 15:48:00 GMT
Still awaiting your answer boys!!
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Post by fergietime on Mar 24, 2019 18:45:40 GMT
Still awaiting your answer boys!!
I've answered for the three of us , after all the three of us are all told the same story by our presumed but ficticious leader
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